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Roundup: Thermalright TF4, TF7, TF8, TF9 and TFX Review – Thermal compound from flowing screed to bunker concrete

As I have been asked again and again about the Thermalright T9 and TFX (i.e. quasi TF10), today there is a Thermalright special with a total of five pastes, three of which I would only recommend to a limited extent. Even though all five pastes are good in terms of price/performance ratio, I consider some of them to be highly problematic. I had already tested three of these pastes in other articles, the other two are new. And one paste can almost compete with the good industrial pastes from Dow Chemical. That’s why I’m summarizing this today and making a kind of Thermalright roundup and a real comparison out of it, because it’s easier to find.

We also had discussions in the forum about skills with viscous pastes and the differences in performance from user to user or changing area of application. Two of the pastes tested today have a physical problem, which I will discuss in detail. After all, my measurement will allow all those who were quietly weeping and doubting their own skills to sleep better again. But the pastes are really to blame here and not the user. But more on that later.

Thermalright TF4

Let’s start at the lower end of the Thermalright food chain this time with the TF4, which is clearly inferior to the other four pastes in terms of performance, but at an almost shockingly low 3 euros for 4 grams shows that even then you can still achieve an almost four-digit margin. It’s the cheapest way to get started and yet not really worth a recommendation, I can spoil that already. Yes, you can do it if you want to get started quickly. But it’s better not to make high demands.

Thermalright TF 7

The TF7 was also recently tested, which at just over 4 euros for 2 grams (free shipping via Amazon Prime) is also more expensive than the TF4, but in my opinion is still a really cheap paste. Thermalright delivers more as ordered, although the price is of course unbeatable without all the middlemen. That has to be said to the credit of most competitors. However, this does not change the fact that the paste is still user-friendly in terms of consistency. Skill level and all. TF7 is not normally viscous and is therefore easier to work with. It is actually exactly the compromise between durability and user-friendliness that made the old GC-Extreme from Gelid famous back in the day.

Thermalright TF8

The Thermalright TF8 is actually more than just an insider tip, especially as this outstandingly performing paste is almost as unbeatably cheap as the TF7 for currently from 5 euros in the 2-gram pack. Today you can find out how and why this paste is, in my opinion, almost the maximum of what is technically feasible and applicable. Of course, there is always some shadow where there is a lot of light, because you can only achieve such values if you “highly fill” a paste, i.e. work with a lot of thermally conductive particles in the matrix. I will explain this later in the material analysis. The skill level therefore increases even further compared to TF7. As far as I could find out, the paste could come from T-Global, which is a reliable reseller.

Thermalright TF9

This paste is thermally a board, physically too, unfortunately. This paste is so highly filled that although it has excellent values for thermal resistance and thermal conductivity, it causes unexpected problems that many users cannot explain because they do not have the means to measure them. There are a few people who are really happy with the TF9, but unfortunately there are also a lot of people who fail with this paste. We need to talk about that today. Durability or not, you can also overdo it. Skill level: top marks. As far as I could find out, this paste should also come from T-Global.

Thermalright TFX

The Thermalright TFX (X as a Roman numeral 10) is the dominant concrete head among the pastes, the canteen cutlet, so to speak, among all the warm-showering thermal conduction files. No, this is no longer a paste, this is putty at its finest. Like the TF9, this paste fails due to its own fatness. And as much as I like the TF8 and the TF7, this is a paste that Thermalright would have done better without. Although it could perhaps still be used as a putty (up to 500 µm). But the explanation is yet to come, so don’t worry.

An important preface to “bulk thermal conductivity” and false marketing promises

I am now deliberately adding two quotes that not only speak to me from the heart, but also absolutely agree with my laboratory measurements. Much more than 4 to 5 W/(m-K), or even 6 W/(m-K) with very, very good pastes, is not possible at all with conventional means under the usual conditions on a GPU or CPU in terms of layer thickness, temperature and pressure. Because these quotes are honest and unfortunately correspond to reality, I will use this part from now on as a standard quote in all paste tests of all manufacturers and put it in front. You can’t bend physics.

For those who wonder how you can even arrive at figures above this limit, it should be noted that test conditions can certainly be adapted to achieve astronomically high figures. However, testing in a bucket has nothing to do with reality, even if a known measurement method is used. Without knowledge of the exact circumstances, such values are completely misleading and meaningless. You could give many suppliers credit for simply not knowing any better and just copying the OEM’s data sheets, but it doesn’t make misleading consumers any better.

Thermal Grizzly
The mostly theoretically determined thermal conductivity values differ greatly depending on the application, as important factors such as contact pressure, temperature or surface cannot be taken into account uniformly. All our cooling products have therefore no longer given specific thermal conductivity values since the 4th quarter of 2020. We continue to rely on the test results of independent tests and reviews so that our customers can get a more realistic impression of the performance of our products in practice under comparable circumstances.

Arctic
ARCTIC has made a conscious decision not to provide thermal conductivity values for thermal pastes and thermal pads, as many manufacturers invent, artificially inflate or embellish these values. Thermally conductive paste has a thermal conductivity of 1 to 4 W/mK. Values outside this range, such as 12.5 W/mK, do not correspond to the truth. Many competitors state values above 4 W/mK to suggest better performance. This often leads to false expectations and dissatisfied users..

Real long-term simulations (3000 hours in 1000 cycles up to 90°C) are not feasible in terms of effort. That’s why I can only make predictions, but I want them to be understood as such. It is virtually impossible to make scientifically sound statements in just a few days. Yes, you can identify a trend and scale it as a forecast based on existing data, but this is not something that allows you to make really reliable statements. Therefore, I am sorry to say that I have to leave out this important point. However, as far as time permits, I will take community feedback into account and add the comments and long-term experience of third parties to the database as a note in due course, if it seems necessary. In both a positive and negative sense. However, this is a subjective value that has no place in a comparative database.

The data sheets, as far as they exist, are quite useless. But that’s what the measurements are for, and it’s precisely these that are really interesting. Let’s go!

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Nulight

Veteran

273 Kommentare 183 Likes

Danke für den sehr ausführlichen Test.
Hier sieht man sehr schön, dass der Tatsächliche Unterschied eben im einstelligen Bereich ist. (2-5)

View image at the forums

Fortschritt ist immer begrüßenswert und wichtig.
Für mich lohnt sich es aktuell nicht den Build auseinander zu nehmen, wegen im besten Fall 2-5 Grad.
Aber beim nächsten Mal ist eine Empfehlung hier nachzusehen welches Wärmeleitmittel es wird ein muss.

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echolot

Urgestein

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Top Überblick und erstaunlich, dass eine eher im Lowbudgetbereich angesiedelte Firma wie Thermalright ein ganzer Artikel gewidmet ist. Woran man mal wieder sieht, dass günstig nicht mit schlecht gleichzusetzen ist. TF8 gefällt. TFX rollt sich auf? Testet man die Produkte überhaupt noch bevor sie auf den Markt geschmissen werden? Wenn Applizierbarkeit auch für den Nicht-Laien ein Problem darstellt, dann sollte das zu R&D zurück.

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big-maec

Urgestein

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Schön das die TF7 zu gebrauchen ist, die liegt kostenfrei dem Thermalright CPU Kühler bei, zumindest bei meinem gekauften Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 CPU Kühler.

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LGTT

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Ich mag die aktuelle Testreihe. Aktuell verbrauche ich noch die letzten Arctic MX 4 reste. Bis das geschafft ist ist vermutlich die große Liste fertig, und ich kann mir einen würdigen Nachfolger aussuchen, ich bin gespannt.

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Igor Wallossek

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Database incoming :D

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chris.

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Vielen Dank für den Test und die Bestätigung, mit dem vorangegangenen Test und Kauf der TF8, nichts falsch gemacht zu haben. 🙂
Inzwischen hatte ich zwar DOW bzgl. Bezugsquellen kontaktiert und zwei Unternehmen aus D benannt bekommen, aber bis Oktober kann man ja nun auch noch warten. 😬

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eastcoast_pete

Urgestein

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1-2 gute Quellen für die Dowsil Paste wären jetzt auch noch sehr schön. Wenn jemand hier weiß, wo man die als nicht-Großkunde erwerben kann, bitte reinstellen!

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Igor Wallossek

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Frag doch mal Digital Blizzard :D

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Besterino

Urgestein

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Dankeschön. Bin mal gespannt, wo sich die Preise mittelfristig einpendeln. Die TF8 hatte ja schon merklich angezogen, als ich zuletzt geschaut hatte.

@Igor Wallossek: auf Seite 1 steht noch einmal Thermaltake statt Thermalright. Ich mag TT zwar, aber die Pasten sind wohl nicht von denen… :)

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Igor Wallossek

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samhayne

Veteran

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Hier entsteht was echt gutes. (y) , Igor.

Irgendwie würd ich ja gern mal sehen, wie man sich mit der TFX abmühen muss…
So wie ich das verstehe, ist sie so zäh, dass man kaum eine ausreichend dünne Schicht hinkriegt und die Paste beim Verstreichen schnell reißt?

Diskreter Hinweis auf kleinen Typo:

View image at the forums

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Igor Wallossek

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Ja, ist alles bissls stressig grade, paralleles Arbeiten am VHX, dem TIMA und dem Editor am Desk sind echt zu viel :D

BTW:
Ich arbeite mich gerade an Thermal Hero ab. Briefkastenfirma, die mit "Engineered in Germany" wirbt, keine Sicherheitsdatenblätter, Datasheets auf der Webseite ergeben eine 404... Überteuerter Schrott für gutgläubige Kunden. Ein paar englischsprachige Reviews auf Noname-Seiten und trotzdem gibts auch in DE-Foren glühende Liebhaber. :D

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chris.

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DOW hat mir folgende Kontaktdaten benannt:

Biesterfeld Spezialchemie GmbH,
Ferdinandstr. 41, 20095 Hamburg
Germany
[email protected]
www.biesterfeld-spezialchemie.com

oder

Tewipack
Marcus Rathfelder
Business development specialist
Email: [email protected]
Website : https://tewipack.de/startseite

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Midnight Angel

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Wow, das Zeug bringt nicht nur den Chip zum glühen, sondern sogar den Anwender?

Die Pampe scheint ja echt was zu können... :P

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Midnight Angel

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Der verkauft doch derzeit lediglich NochniX. (ichmussweg)

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chris.

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Im Zusammenhang mit Igor´s "überteuerter Schrott"-Aussage wahrscheinlich eher ein glühen vor Wut. 😆

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Besterino

Urgestein

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LOL - der war groß!

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komatös

Veteran

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@Igor Wallossek bei Amazon wird auch bei Produkten von Thermal Grizzly mit der "Bulk-Wärmeleitfägkeit" gelogen, äh geworben.

Amazon Grizzly

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MojoMC

Veteran

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Und zack, hat die grausame Realität wieder zugeschlagen.
Die TF7 liegt im "offiziellen" Amazon-Shop jetzt schon bei 7,29€ für 2 Gramm, und die TF8 bei 12€ oder mehr, aber nur erhältlich bei noch dubioseren Marketplace-Händlern als dem "offiziellen" Shop.

Das ist für den Kunden halt echt doof:
Kein Distributor, nur ein einzelner kleiner "offizieller" Marketplace-Shop. Der hat dann Verfügbarkeitsprobleme; andere Shops haben die Pasten auch, aber nur teilweise vertrauenswürdig bei so leicht gefälschten Produkten mit Riesenmargen; und das ganze durch die Versorgungslage mit stark schwankenden Preisen überall.
Da macht sich das Fehlen eines Distributors doch sehr negativ bemerkbar.

Samstag sah das ganze noch anders aus, da gab es eine kleine Tube TF7 im "offiziellen" Shop noch für unter 5€. So sind die Thermalright-Pasten in meinen Augen noch keine "no-brainer"-Empfehlung für die Allgemeinheit...

PS: Höchstinteressant, die Konsistenz der TF9 und TFX.

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Danke für die Spende



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Igor Wallossek

Editor-in-chief and name-giver of igor'sLAB as the content successor of Tom's Hardware Germany, whose license was returned in June 2019 in order to better meet the qualitative demands of web content and challenges of new media such as YouTube with its own channel.

Computer nerd since 1983, audio freak since 1979 and pretty much open to anything with a plug or battery for over 50 years.

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